Hasidim style and customs

There are many similarities between the devout Muslims I met in Gaza and the Hasidim in Brooklyn.

  • Modesty in dress
  • Women covering their hair
  • Respect for women
  • Courtship and weddings
  • Devotion and personal relationship with G-d and Allah

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7 responses to “Hasidim style and customs

  1. “Respect for women”? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamization_of_the_Gaza_Strip#Restrictions_on_women

    In 2009, Hamas banned girls from riding behind men on motor scooters and forbade women from dancing.

    • Thanks for sharing Michael.

      Yes, there are restrictions in Gaza (men and women) that Westerners and secular society might not understand. And what we don’t understand, we typically fear or mock.

      I find it interesting that Israel wants to be a nation for the Jewish people, supposedly following Jewish law and traditions. While next door, Hamas would like to see Palestinians in Gaza follow Sharia law.

      I suspect there are people in both places that object. Personally, I find it dangerous to combine religion and politics in this way.

      In Gaza, there is a tremendous amount of respect for women. I will write a blog post on that subject and provide examples.

      I wonder what G-d and Allah (one and the same?) would say about what’s going on in Israel and Gaza today?

      • Not that the Gazans understand or appreciate that. From the same Wikipedia article – “women [in Gaza] who chose not to wear the hijab were verbally and physically harassed, with the result that the hijab was being worn ‘just to avoid problems on the streets’.” Doesn’t sound like a tremendous amount of respect to me. Sounds like Talibanization.

        In Israel, people are free to follow Jewish laws and traditions. Israel guarantees the freedoms of its inhabitants and bans discrimination based on sex, religion, race or sexual preferences. I find your attempt to present that as equal to the forceful removal of women from public space in Gaza repulsive.

      • Michael:

        The link you shared regurgitates the same misinformation that I have seen many times. That’s one of the reasons why I wanted to go to Gaza and see for myself. I lived in Gaza 8 months.

        Women in Gaza have different ideas about dress — many wore hijab and some did not. When I spoke with them about their decision, I never heard anyone speak of an oppressive mandate from Hamas or family. Of course, just like anywhere in the world, there was probably an element of societal pressure. When all of your girlfriends are wearing something, you want to fit in. This “peer pressure” happens in Brooklyn, Jerusalem and Gaza.

        I have 30+ years experience with the Hasidim in Brooklyn. I feel there are many similarities between the Hasidim and the devout Muslims in Gaza. The fact that you find the comparison “repulsive” is sad because that means you’re not willing to see the humanity in the Palestinians …. they are “less than human” or “less than Hasidim” or “less than Israelis”???? That is truly sad and says much more about YOU than the Palestinians.

        Are you absolutely sure there is equality for all citizens in Israel? When was the last time you talked with an Arab-Israeli? I’m reading about the recent discriminatory laws passed by the Knesset.

      • Don’t know which laws passed by the Knesset you refer to. You’ll have to be more specific.

        You compared between Israel and Hamastan. I found and still find your comparison between a totalitarian Islamic theocracy created by Hamas in Gaza and the free, open and equal society of Israel repulsive.

        Personally, I find the cleansing of women from the public space equally disgusting when done by Jewish, Moslim or any other fanatics. How you conclude from that that I think Arabs “less human that …”, I do not know.

        The article refers to dozens of sources – newspapers, news agencies (including Arab), reports by various institutions and organizations, including Human Rights Watch. If you claim all of them lie I think you need to bring very strong proof of the “conspiracy” they all created.

      • Acceptance to Communities Bill is one example of a discriminatory law passed by the Knesset.

        http://www.acri.org.il/en/2011/03/22/final-vote-on-nakba-law-and-acceptance-to-communities-bill/

        The Absentee Property Law – 1950

        The Land Acquisition Law – 1953

        Prevention of Infiltration Law – 1954

        Citizenship and Entry into Israel Law – 2003.

        The Knesset has passed many discriminatory laws but these are few examples.

        Sit down with Israeli Arabs and talk with them about their experience living in Israel. If they feel they can trust you, they’ll share horror stories about traveling through Ben Gurion Airport, etc.

      • In Israel we have a separation of authorities and a system of checks and balances, as befits a democratic society. The laws you refer to have been passed by a democratically elected parliament and the Israeli Supreme Court can (and does) overturn laws it deems discriminatory.

        The laws passed by Arab states, depriving their Jewish citizens citizenship and property – now that’s discrimination!

        You do know I’ve lived in Israel. And worked alongside Israeli Arabs, and served in the military with some of them. They seem pretty pleased with the opportunities they get, and the civil freedoms they enjoy, unrivalled by any Arab state.

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